[{"id":34871,"web_url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/comment/34871/","msgid":"","date":"2025-07-12T15:02:32","subject":"Re: [PATCH v10 0/8] Enable raw streams with software ISP","submitter":{"id":226,"url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/api/people/226/","name":"Bryan O'Donoghue","email":"bod.linux@nxsw.ie"},"content":"On 11/07/2025 18:53, Milan Zamazal wrote:\n> This makes raw streams working again in ‘simple’ pipeline when software\n> ISP is enabled for the given device. At most one raw stream and one\n> processed stream (possibly both at once) are supported.\n> \n> An example ‘cam’ invocation requesting a raw stream rather than a debayered stream:\n> \n> cam -c1 -C8 -s role=raw,width=1920,height=1080 -Ffile#.raw\n> \n> Or for both raw and processed streams:\n> \n> cam -c1 -C8 -Ffile# \\\n> -s role=viewfinder,width=1920,height=1080,pixelformat=RGB888 \\\n> -s role=raw,width=3280,height=2464,pixelformat=SRGGB8\n> \n> When only a raw stream is requested, there are no exposure/gain\n> adjustments applied. This could be improved in future, once software\n> ISP gets a mechanism to gather image statistics without processing and\n> using them to make the adjustments, or once manual exposure controls are\n> added to software ISP. In the meantime, exposure must be changed\n> externally.\n> \n> Tested-by: Kieran Bingham\n> Tested-by: Robert Mader\n\nWhen I run this through qcam - I only get the one source to select from.\n\nShouldn't it be that you get a dropdown of either raw or processed ?\n\n---\nbod","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Delivered-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Received":["from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (lancelot.ideasonboard.com\n\t[92.243.16.209])\n\tby patchwork.libcamera.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65079BE175\n\tfor ;\n\tSat, 12 Jul 2025 15:02:40 +0000 (UTC)","from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (localhost [IPv6:::1])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DFD68F26;\n\tSat, 12 Jul 2025 17:02:39 +0200 (CEST)","from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [139.178.84.217])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D991E68EAF\n\tfor ;\n\tSat, 12 Jul 2025 17:02:36 +0200 (CEST)","from smtp.kernel.org (transwarp.subspace.kernel.org [100.75.92.58])\n\tby dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E72C5C4DA6\n\tfor ;\n\tSat, 12 Jul 2025 15:02:35 +0000 (UTC)","by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E399C4CEEF\n\tfor ;\n\tSat, 12 Jul 2025 15:02:34 +0000 (UTC)"],"Message-ID":"","Date":"Sat, 12 Jul 2025 16:02:32 +0100","MIME-Version":"1.0","User-Agent":"Mozilla Thunderbird","Subject":"Re: [PATCH v10 0/8] Enable raw streams with software ISP","To":"libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org","References":"\n\t<20250711175345.90318-1-mzamazal@redhat.com>","From":"Bryan O'Donoghue ","Content-Language":"en-US","In-Reply-To":"<20250711175345.90318-1-mzamazal@redhat.com>","Content-Type":"text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed","Content-Transfer-Encoding":"8bit","X-BeenThere":"libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org","X-Mailman-Version":"2.1.29","Precedence":"list","List-Id":"","List-Unsubscribe":",\n\t","List-Archive":"","List-Post":"","List-Help":"","List-Subscribe":",\n\t","Errors-To":"libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org","Sender":"\"libcamera-devel\" "}},{"id":34875,"web_url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/comment/34875/","msgid":"<85o6tncg7f.fsf@mzamazal-thinkpadp1gen7.tpbc.csb>","date":"2025-07-14T08:46:44","subject":"Re: [PATCH v10 0/8] Enable raw streams with software ISP","submitter":{"id":177,"url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/api/people/177/","name":"Milan Zamazal","email":"mzamazal@redhat.com"},"content":"Bryan O'Donoghue writes:\n\n> On 11/07/2025 18:53, Milan Zamazal wrote:\n>> This makes raw streams working again in ‘simple’ pipeline when software\n>> ISP is enabled for the given device. At most one raw stream and one\n>\n>> processed stream (possibly both at once) are supported.\n>> An example ‘cam’ invocation requesting a raw stream rather than a debayered stream:\n>> cam -c1 -C8 -s role=raw,width=1920,height=1080 -Ffile#.raw\n>> Or for both raw and processed streams:\n>> cam -c1 -C8 -Ffile# \\\n>> -s role=viewfinder,width=1920,height=1080,pixelformat=RGB888 \\\n>> -s role=raw,width=3280,height=2464,pixelformat=SRGGB8\n>> When only a raw stream is requested, there are no exposure/gain\n>> adjustments applied. This could be improved in future, once software\n>> ISP gets a mechanism to gather image statistics without processing and\n>> using them to make the adjustments, or once manual exposure controls are\n>> added to software ISP. In the meantime, exposure must be changed\n>> externally.\n>> Tested-by: Kieran Bingham\n>> Tested-by: Robert Mader\n>\n> When I run this through qcam - I only get the one source to select from.\n>\n> Shouldn't it be that you get a dropdown of either raw or processed ?\n\nDo you mean when you use a qcam command line like the ones for cam\nabove, it doesn't work?\n\nRegards,\nMilan","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Delivered-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Received":["from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (lancelot.ideasonboard.com\n\t[92.243.16.209])\n\tby patchwork.libcamera.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DE1EBE175\n\tfor ;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 08:46:54 +0000 (UTC)","from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (localhost [IPv6:::1])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC3268F35;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 10:46:53 +0200 (CEST)","from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com\n\t(us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D55361518\n\tfor ;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 10:46:51 +0200 (CEST)","from mail-ej1-f70.google.com (mail-ej1-f70.google.com\n\t[209.85.218.70]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS\n\t(version=TLSv1.3, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id\n\tus-mta-412-Hw6PjfHFMj26GCGkcqJ-Hg-1; Mon, 14 Jul 2025 04:46:48 -0400","by mail-ej1-f70.google.com with SMTP id\n\ta640c23a62f3a-adb32dbf60bso408460466b.1\n\tfor ;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 01:46:48 -0700 (PDT)","from mzamazal-thinkpadp1gen7.tpbc.csb\n\t(ip-77-48-47-2.net.vodafone.cz. 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At most one raw stream and one\n>>\n>>> processed stream (possibly both at once) are supported.\n>>> An example ‘cam’ invocation requesting a raw stream rather than a debayered stream:\n>>> cam -c1 -C8 -s role=raw,width=1920,height=1080 -Ffile#.raw\n>>> Or for both raw and processed streams:\n>>> cam -c1 -C8 -Ffile# \\\n>>> -s role=viewfinder,width=1920,height=1080,pixelformat=RGB888 \\\n>>> -s role=raw,width=3280,height=2464,pixelformat=SRGGB8\n>>> When only a raw stream is requested, there are no exposure/gain\n>>> adjustments applied. This could be improved in future, once software\n>>> ISP gets a mechanism to gather image statistics without processing and\n>>> using them to make the adjustments, or once manual exposure controls are\n>>> added to software ISP. In the meantime, exposure must be changed\n>>> externally.\n>>> Tested-by: Kieran Bingham\n>>> Tested-by: Robert Mader\n>>\n>> When I run this through qcam - I only get the one source to select from.\n>>\n>> Shouldn't it be that you get a dropdown of either raw or processed ?\n> \n> Do you mean when you use a qcam command line like the ones for cam\n> above, it doesn't work?\n> \n> Regards,\n> Milan\n> \n\nI mean with the complex command line - shouldn't it list the available \nstreams in the dropdown - processed v raw ?\n\n---\nbod","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Delivered-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Received":["from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (lancelot.ideasonboard.com\n\t[92.243.16.209])\n\tby patchwork.libcamera.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1D37BE175\n\tfor ;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 08:48:48 +0000 (UTC)","from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (localhost [IPv6:::1])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA03068F35;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 10:48:47 +0200 (CEST)","from sea.source.kernel.org (sea.source.kernel.org\n\t[IPv6:2600:3c0a:e001:78e:0:1991:8:25])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 222D561518\n\tfor ;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 10:48:47 +0200 (CEST)","from smtp.kernel.org (transwarp.subspace.kernel.org [100.75.92.58])\n\tby sea.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC524380C;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 08:48:45 +0000 (UTC)","by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6B98C4CEED;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 08:48:44 +0000 (UTC)"],"Message-ID":"<1974430b-1c0f-46a5-b2a9-493c0fc2eae0@nxsw.ie>","Date":"Mon, 14 Jul 2025 09:48:42 +0100","MIME-Version":"1.0","User-Agent":"Mozilla Thunderbird","Subject":"Re: [PATCH v10 0/8] Enable raw streams with software ISP","To":"Milan Zamazal ","Cc":"libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org","References":"\n\t<20250711175345.90318-1-mzamazal@redhat.com>\n\t\n\t\n\t<85o6tncg7f.fsf@mzamazal-thinkpadp1gen7.tpbc.csb>","From":"Bryan O'Donoghue ","Content-Language":"en-US","In-Reply-To":"<85o6tncg7f.fsf@mzamazal-thinkpadp1gen7.tpbc.csb>","Content-Type":"text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed","Content-Transfer-Encoding":"8bit","X-BeenThere":"libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org","X-Mailman-Version":"2.1.29","Precedence":"list","List-Id":"","List-Unsubscribe":",\n\t","List-Archive":"","List-Post":"","List-Help":"","List-Subscribe":",\n\t","Errors-To":"libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org","Sender":"\"libcamera-devel\" "}},{"id":34877,"web_url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/comment/34877/","msgid":"<20250714085417.GB8243@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>","date":"2025-07-14T08:54:17","subject":"Re: [PATCH v10 0/8] Enable raw streams with software ISP","submitter":{"id":2,"url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/api/people/2/","name":"Laurent Pinchart","email":"laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com"},"content":"On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 09:48:42AM +0100, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:\n> On 14/07/2025 09:46, Milan Zamazal wrote:\n> > Bryan O'Donoghue writes:\n> >> On 11/07/2025 18:53, Milan Zamazal wrote:\n> >>> This makes raw streams working again in ‘simple’ pipeline when software\n> >>> ISP is enabled for the given device. At most one raw stream and one\n> >>\n> >>> processed stream (possibly both at once) are supported.\n> >>> An example ‘cam’ invocation requesting a raw stream rather than a debayered stream:\n> >>> cam -c1 -C8 -s role=raw,width=1920,height=1080 -Ffile#.raw\n> >>> Or for both raw and processed streams:\n> >>> cam -c1 -C8 -Ffile# \\\n> >>> -s role=viewfinder,width=1920,height=1080,pixelformat=RGB888 \\\n> >>> -s role=raw,width=3280,height=2464,pixelformat=SRGGB8\n> >>> When only a raw stream is requested, there are no exposure/gain\n> >>> adjustments applied. This could be improved in future, once software\n> >>> ISP gets a mechanism to gather image statistics without processing and\n> >>> using them to make the adjustments, or once manual exposure controls are\n> >>> added to software ISP. In the meantime, exposure must be changed\n> >>> externally.\n> >>> Tested-by: Kieran Bingham\n> >>> Tested-by: Robert Mader\n> >>\n> >> When I run this through qcam - I only get the one source to select from.\n> >>\n> >> Shouldn't it be that you get a dropdown of either raw or processed ?\n> > \n> > Do you mean when you use a qcam command line like the ones for cam\n> > above, it doesn't work?\n> \n> I mean with the complex command line - shouldn't it list the available \n> streams in the dropdown - processed v raw ?\n\nThe dropdown box selects the camera, not the format or stream.","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Delivered-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Received":["from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (lancelot.ideasonboard.com\n\t[92.243.16.209])\n\tby patchwork.libcamera.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0962AC3237\n\tfor ;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 08:54:51 +0000 (UTC)","from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (localhost [IPv6:::1])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B159568F37;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 10:54:49 +0200 (CEST)","from perceval.ideasonboard.com (perceval.ideasonboard.com\n\t[213.167.242.64])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45ED461518\n\tfor ;\n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 10:54:48 +0200 (CEST)","from pendragon.ideasonboard.com (81-175-209-231.bb.dnainternet.fi\n\t[81.175.209.231])\n\tby perceval.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPSA id 598E91B24; \n\tMon, 14 Jul 2025 10:54:16 +0200 (CEST)"],"Authentication-Results":"lancelot.ideasonboard.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key;\n\tunprotected) header.d=ideasonboard.com header.i=@ideasonboard.com\n\theader.b=\"cm2+GvWC\"; dkim-atps=neutral","DKIM-Signature":"v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ideasonboard.com;\n\ts=mail; t=1752483256;\n\tbh=dfNwzemeZ2PNi/j117TzJOJ9bLBs3HjQQRE8bpFGo9w=;\n\th=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From;\n\tb=cm2+GvWCywaMubgKCQ2wR6OM43QPv6cTYQRQyQT/mAvj13ZwE/M4/isj8uEACVtV3\n\tytmb3teQg+l5ymtfgTE2gJGF24/pfCzCBswpS9sJFAFKC0eGokizoeeyx/Nj5TWsFX\n\tfDFPv2/sLsaZNi25BYUyMovCPvzfednExSvDlNS4=","Date":"Mon, 14 Jul 2025 11:54:17 +0300","From":"Laurent Pinchart ","To":"Bryan O'Donoghue ","Cc":"Milan Zamazal , libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org","Subject":"Re: [PATCH v10 0/8] Enable raw streams with software ISP","Message-ID":"<20250714085417.GB8243@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>","References":"\n\t<20250711175345.90318-1-mzamazal@redhat.com>\n\t\n\t\n\t<85o6tncg7f.fsf@mzamazal-thinkpadp1gen7.tpbc.csb>\n\t<1974430b-1c0f-46a5-b2a9-493c0fc2eae0@nxsw.ie>","MIME-Version":"1.0","Content-Type":"text/plain; charset=utf-8","Content-Disposition":"inline","Content-Transfer-Encoding":"8bit","In-Reply-To":"<1974430b-1c0f-46a5-b2a9-493c0fc2eae0@nxsw.ie>","X-BeenThere":"libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org","X-Mailman-Version":"2.1.29","Precedence":"list","List-Id":"","List-Unsubscribe":",\n\t","List-Archive":"","List-Post":"","List-Help":"","List-Subscribe":",\n\t","Errors-To":"libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org","Sender":"\"libcamera-devel\" "}}]