[{"id":21702,"web_url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/comment/21702/","msgid":"","date":"2021-12-09T10:32:17","subject":"Re: [libcamera-devel] [RFC v3 0/5] Python bindings","submitter":{"id":42,"url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/api/people/42/","name":"David Plowman","email":"david.plowman@raspberrypi.com"},"content":"Hi Tomi, everyone\n\nThanks for submitting this set, very pleased to see this moving again!\n\nI've actually been using these bindings extensively over the last\nseveral weeks, so we could add:\n\nTested-by: David Plowman \n\nto all of them.\n\nA couple of points:\n\n* For my Picamera2 use cases (which are not remarkable) I had to add\nsupport for array controls, controls in the camera start() method, and\nan implementation of the transforms. I can submit those changes on top\nof this patch set at a later date, though they probably lack the\nrequisite loveliness at the moment.\n\n* About the name \"pycamera\". Could we use \"pylibcamera\" instead? I\nworry that \"pycamera\" would cause more confusion with \"picamera\",\nwhich is of course our legacy stack Python library that Picamera2 is\nreplacing.\n\nThanks!\nDavid\n\nOn Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 09:29, Tomi Valkeinen\n wrote:\n>\n> Hi,\n>\n> Third RFC of the python bindings. I believe it's over a year since the\n> last version, and I've been tinkering with the bindings every now and\n> then.\n>\n> This version includes cam.py, which mimics 'cam' tool. The idea is not\n> to try to replace 'cam', but to test the bindings in a real use case,\n> rather than artificial tests.\n>\n> There are a few clear items that should be done to make this more\n> usable:\n>\n> - Fix the ControlValue handling, as arrays are not handled at all.\n> Possibly other types are not handled correctly.\n> - Add ControlList parameter to Camera.start()\n> - Add Transform\n>\n> Tomi\n>\n> Tomi Valkeinen (5):\n> HACK: Camera public destructor\n> libcamera: Request: expose Camera from Request\n> gitignore: add .cache\n> Add Python bindings\n> py: Add cam.py\n>\n> .gitignore | 2 +\n> include/libcamera/camera.h | 2 +-\n> include/libcamera/request.h | 2 +\n> meson.build | 1 +\n> meson_options.txt | 5 +\n> src/libcamera/request.cpp | 5 +\n> src/meson.build | 1 +\n> src/py/meson.build | 1 +\n> src/py/pycamera/__init__.py | 10 +\n> src/py/pycamera/meson.build | 43 ++++\n> src/py/pycamera/pymain.cpp | 424 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n> src/py/test/cam.py | 464 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n> src/py/test/cam_kms.py | 185 ++++++++++++++\n> src/py/test/cam_null.py | 46 ++++\n> src/py/test/cam_qt.py | 355 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n> src/py/test/cam_qtgl.py | 385 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n> src/py/test/gl_helpers.py | 67 ++++++\n> subprojects/pybind11.wrap | 12 +\n> 18 files changed, 2009 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)\n> create mode 100644 src/py/meson.build\n> create mode 100644 src/py/pycamera/__init__.py\n> create mode 100644 src/py/pycamera/meson.build\n> create mode 100644 src/py/pycamera/pymain.cpp\n> create mode 100755 src/py/test/cam.py\n> create mode 100644 src/py/test/cam_kms.py\n> create mode 100644 src/py/test/cam_null.py\n> create mode 100644 src/py/test/cam_qt.py\n> create mode 100644 src/py/test/cam_qtgl.py\n> create mode 100644 src/py/test/gl_helpers.py\n> create mode 100644 subprojects/pybind11.wrap\n>\n> --\n> 2.25.1\n>","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Delivered-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Received":["from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (lancelot.ideasonboard.com\n\t[92.243.16.209])\n\tby patchwork.libcamera.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75A19BDB13\n\tfor ;\n\tThu, 9 Dec 2021 10:32:30 +0000 (UTC)","from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (localhost [IPv6:::1])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E6760822;\n\tThu, 9 Dec 2021 11:32:29 +0100 (CET)","from mail-wm1-x336.google.com (mail-wm1-x336.google.com\n\t[IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::336])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 239FB60224\n\tfor ;\n\tThu, 9 Dec 2021 11:32:28 +0100 (CET)","by mail-wm1-x336.google.com with SMTP id 137so3799682wma.1\n\tfor ;\n\tThu, 09 Dec 2021 02:32:28 -0800 (PST)"],"Authentication-Results":"lancelot.ideasonboard.com;\n\tdkim=fail reason=\"signature verification failed\" (2048-bit key;\n\tunprotected) header.d=raspberrypi.com header.i=@raspberrypi.com\n\theader.b=\"lo9JbGMw\"; 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charset=\"UTF-8\"","Subject":"Re: [libcamera-devel] [RFC v3 0/5] Python bindings","X-BeenThere":"libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org","X-Mailman-Version":"2.1.29","Precedence":"list","List-Id":"","List-Unsubscribe":",\n\t","List-Archive":"","List-Post":"","List-Help":"","List-Subscribe":",\n\t","Cc":"libcamera devel ","Errors-To":"libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org","Sender":"\"libcamera-devel\" "}},{"id":21715,"web_url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/comment/21715/","msgid":"","date":"2021-12-09T16:44:42","subject":"Re: [libcamera-devel] [RFC v3 0/5] Python bindings","submitter":{"id":2,"url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/api/people/2/","name":"Laurent Pinchart","email":"laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com"},"content":"Hello,\n\nOn Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 10:32:17AM +0000, David Plowman wrote:\n> Hi Tomi, everyone\n> \n> Thanks for submitting this set, very pleased to see this moving again!\n> \n> I've actually been using these bindings extensively over the last\n> several weeks, so we could add:\n> \n> Tested-by: David Plowman \n> \n> to all of them.\n> \n> A couple of points:\n> \n> * For my Picamera2 use cases (which are not remarkable) I had to add\n> support for array controls, controls in the camera start() method, and\n> an implementation of the transforms. I can submit those changes on top\n> of this patch set at a later date, though they probably lack the\n> requisite loveliness at the moment.\n> \n> * About the name \"pycamera\". Could we use \"pylibcamera\" instead? I\n> worry that \"pycamera\" would cause more confusion with \"picamera\",\n> which is of course our legacy stack Python library that Picamera2 is\n> replacing.\n\nOne always loves a naming discussion.\n\nDo we need the \"py\" prefix ? I would assume that a Python module can\nsafely be considered to be python-related, even with a \"py\" prefix :-)\nWe could then name the module \"libcamera\", \"camera\" or \"cam\" (the last\none may be a bit too short).\n\n> On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 09:29, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:\n> >\n> > Hi,\n> >\n> > Third RFC of the python bindings. I believe it's over a year since the\n> > last version, and I've been tinkering with the bindings every now and\n> > then.\n> >\n> > This version includes cam.py, which mimics 'cam' tool. The idea is not\n> > to try to replace 'cam', but to test the bindings in a real use case,\n> > rather than artificial tests.\n> >\n> > There are a few clear items that should be done to make this more\n> > usable:\n> >\n> > - Fix the ControlValue handling, as arrays are not handled at all.\n> > Possibly other types are not handled correctly.\n> > - Add ControlList parameter to Camera.start()\n> > - Add Transform\n> >\n> > Tomi\n> >\n> > Tomi Valkeinen (5):\n> > HACK: Camera public destructor\n> > libcamera: Request: expose Camera from Request\n> > gitignore: add .cache\n> > Add Python bindings\n> > py: Add cam.py\n> >\n> > .gitignore | 2 +\n> > include/libcamera/camera.h | 2 +-\n> > include/libcamera/request.h | 2 +\n> > meson.build | 1 +\n> > meson_options.txt | 5 +\n> > src/libcamera/request.cpp | 5 +\n> > src/meson.build | 1 +\n> > src/py/meson.build | 1 +\n> > src/py/pycamera/__init__.py | 10 +\n> > src/py/pycamera/meson.build | 43 ++++\n> > src/py/pycamera/pymain.cpp | 424 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n> > src/py/test/cam.py | 464 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n> > src/py/test/cam_kms.py | 185 ++++++++++++++\n> > src/py/test/cam_null.py | 46 ++++\n> > src/py/test/cam_qt.py | 355 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n> > src/py/test/cam_qtgl.py | 385 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\n> > src/py/test/gl_helpers.py | 67 ++++++\n> > subprojects/pybind11.wrap | 12 +\n> > 18 files changed, 2009 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)\n> > create mode 100644 src/py/meson.build\n> > create mode 100644 src/py/pycamera/__init__.py\n> > create mode 100644 src/py/pycamera/meson.build\n> > create mode 100644 src/py/pycamera/pymain.cpp\n> > create mode 100755 src/py/test/cam.py\n> > create mode 100644 src/py/test/cam_kms.py\n> > create mode 100644 src/py/test/cam_null.py\n> > create mode 100644 src/py/test/cam_qt.py\n> > create mode 100644 src/py/test/cam_qtgl.py\n> > create mode 100644 src/py/test/gl_helpers.py\n> > create mode 100644 subprojects/pybind11.wrap","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Delivered-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Received":["from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (lancelot.ideasonboard.com\n\t[92.243.16.209])\n\tby patchwork.libcamera.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 125B0BDB13\n\tfor ;\n\tThu, 9 Dec 2021 16:45:15 +0000 (UTC)","from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (localhost [IPv6:::1])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521556086A;\n\tThu, 9 Dec 2021 17:45:14 +0100 (CET)","from perceval.ideasonboard.com (perceval.ideasonboard.com\n\t[IPv6:2001:4b98:dc2:55:216:3eff:fef7:d647])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31D50607DE\n\tfor ;\n\tThu, 9 Dec 2021 17:45:12 +0100 (CET)","from pendragon.ideasonboard.com (62-78-145-57.bb.dnainternet.fi\n\t[62.78.145.57])\n\tby perceval.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95052501;\n\tThu, 9 Dec 2021 17:45:11 +0100 (CET)"],"Authentication-Results":"lancelot.ideasonboard.com;\n\tdkim=fail reason=\"signature verification failed\" (1024-bit key;\n\tunprotected) header.d=ideasonboard.com header.i=@ideasonboard.com\n\theader.b=\"leiW9d8N\"; 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I can submit those changes on top\n>> of this patch set at a later date, though they probably lack the\n>> requisite loveliness at the moment.\n>>\n>> * About the name \"pycamera\". Could we use \"pylibcamera\" instead? I\n>> worry that \"pycamera\" would cause more confusion with \"picamera\",\n>> which is of course our legacy stack Python library that Picamera2 is\n>> replacing.\n> \n> One always loves a naming discussion.\n> \n> Do we need the \"py\" prefix ? I would assume that a Python module can\n> safely be considered to be python-related, even with a \"py\" prefix :-)\n> We could then name the module \"libcamera\", \"camera\" or \"cam\" (the last\n> one may be a bit too short).\n\nThe binding generator currently builds \"pycamera.so\". I'm not sure if \ncreating a libcamera.so for both the libcamera library and the python \nbindings will create problems. The bindings .so won't be in any common \nlib directory, but I can imagine having interesting issues due to this.\n\nI can give it a try.\n\n Tomi","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Delivered-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Received":["from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (lancelot.ideasonboard.com\n\t[92.243.16.209])\n\tby patchwork.libcamera.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88780BF415\n\tfor ;\n\tFri, 10 Dec 2021 12:16:45 +0000 (UTC)","from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (localhost [IPv6:::1])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BE06087E;\n\tFri, 10 Dec 2021 13:16:44 +0100 (CET)","from perceval.ideasonboard.com (perceval.ideasonboard.com\n\t[IPv6:2001:4b98:dc2:55:216:3eff:fef7:d647])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92B6060868\n\tfor ;\n\tFri, 10 Dec 2021 13:16:43 +0100 (CET)","from [192.168.1.111] (91-156-85-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi\n\t[91.156.85.209])\n\tby perceval.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F0CA93;\n\tFri, 10 Dec 2021 13:16:43 +0100 (CET)"],"Authentication-Results":"lancelot.ideasonboard.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key;\n\tunprotected) header.d=ideasonboard.com header.i=@ideasonboard.com\n\theader.b=\"J6Y2jXRE\"; dkim-atps=neutral","DKIM-Signature":"v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ideasonboard.com;\n\ts=mail; t=1639138603;\n\tbh=lYsOkK5v8Nk2cX8d7EyPBgF/IiVwFmOMI7tDINTyrSg=;\n\th=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From;\n\tb=J6Y2jXREFdkdY5a6656/l0FyKvUGxtToe9OBsaS8TNltdS6XiXshZmTshQ48Vwm9T\n\ttO1xJiy2JDYcqXVUZg9ZTYMcO4mNsdQdb+dxjFykL8ES2apId2kMxjzRnutkCzGhYA\n\t23GBzzAOAeqX0lWU/8z3ZYaVzyR3W0MQbMoQP+m8=","To":"Laurent Pinchart ,\n\tDavid Plowman ","References":"<20211209092906.37303-1-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>\n\t\n\t","From":"Tomi Valkeinen ","Message-ID":"<204f8c40-927a-afb1-3573-7904023910ff@ideasonboard.com>","Date":"Fri, 10 Dec 2021 14:16:40 +0200","User-Agent":"Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101\n\tThunderbird/78.14.0","MIME-Version":"1.0","In-Reply-To":"","Content-Type":"text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed","Content-Language":"en-US","Content-Transfer-Encoding":"7bit","Subject":"Re: [libcamera-devel] [RFC v3 0/5] Python bindings","X-BeenThere":"libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org","X-Mailman-Version":"2.1.29","Precedence":"list","List-Id":"","List-Unsubscribe":",\n\t","List-Archive":"","List-Post":"","List-Help":"","List-Subscribe":",\n\t","Cc":"libcamera devel ","Errors-To":"libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org","Sender":"\"libcamera-devel\" "}},{"id":21740,"web_url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/comment/21740/","msgid":"","date":"2021-12-10T12:21:26","subject":"Re: [libcamera-devel] [RFC v3 0/5] Python bindings","submitter":{"id":2,"url":"https://patchwork.libcamera.org/api/people/2/","name":"Laurent Pinchart","email":"laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com"},"content":"Hi Tomi,\n\nOn Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 02:16:40PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:\n> On 09/12/2021 18:44, Laurent Pinchart wrote:\n> > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 10:32:17AM +0000, David Plowman wrote:\n> >> Hi Tomi, everyone\n> >>\n> >> Thanks for submitting this set, very pleased to see this moving again!\n> >>\n> >> I've actually been using these bindings extensively over the last\n> >> several weeks, so we could add:\n> >>\n> >> Tested-by: David Plowman \n> >>\n> >> to all of them.\n> >>\n> >> A couple of points:\n> >>\n> >> * For my Picamera2 use cases (which are not remarkable) I had to add\n> >> support for array controls, controls in the camera start() method, and\n> >> an implementation of the transforms. I can submit those changes on top\n> >> of this patch set at a later date, though they probably lack the\n> >> requisite loveliness at the moment.\n> >>\n> >> * About the name \"pycamera\". Could we use \"pylibcamera\" instead? I\n> >> worry that \"pycamera\" would cause more confusion with \"picamera\",\n> >> which is of course our legacy stack Python library that Picamera2 is\n> >> replacing.\n> > \n> > One always loves a naming discussion.\n> > \n> > Do we need the \"py\" prefix ? I would assume that a Python module can\n> > safely be considered to be python-related, even with a \"py\" prefix :-)\n> > We could then name the module \"libcamera\", \"camera\" or \"cam\" (the last\n> > one may be a bit too short).\n> \n> The binding generator currently builds \"pycamera.so\". I'm not sure if \n> creating a libcamera.so for both the libcamera library and the python \n> bindings will create problems. The bindings .so won't be in any common \n> lib directory, but I can imagine having interesting issues due to this.\n\n\"pycamera.so\" sounds good to me, but as we have a __init__.py, maybe we\ncould store it in a \"camera\" directory, and import * from pycamera in\n__init__.py (or something similar) ? PEP8 also recommends\n\n\"When an extension module written in C or C++ has an accompanying Python\nmodule that provides a higher level (e.g. more object oriented)\ninterface, the C/C++ module has a leading underscore (e.g. _socket).\"\n\n(https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#package-and-module-names)\n\n> I can give it a try.","headers":{"Return-Path":"","X-Original-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Delivered-To":"parsemail@patchwork.libcamera.org","Received":["from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (lancelot.ideasonboard.com\n\t[92.243.16.209])\n\tby patchwork.libcamera.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C06DBDB13\n\tfor ;\n\tFri, 10 Dec 2021 12:21:59 +0000 (UTC)","from lancelot.ideasonboard.com (localhost [IPv6:::1])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE27A60890;\n\tFri, 10 Dec 2021 13:21:58 +0100 (CET)","from perceval.ideasonboard.com (perceval.ideasonboard.com\n\t[IPv6:2001:4b98:dc2:55:216:3eff:fef7:d647])\n\tby lancelot.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6EDF60868\n\tfor ;\n\tFri, 10 Dec 2021 13:21:56 +0100 (CET)","from pendragon.ideasonboard.com (62-78-145-57.bb.dnainternet.fi\n\t[62.78.145.57])\n\tby perceval.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D8E7F84;\n\tFri, 10 Dec 2021 13:21:56 +0100 (CET)"],"Authentication-Results":"lancelot.ideasonboard.com;\n\tdkim=fail reason=\"signature verification failed\" (1024-bit key;\n\tunprotected) header.d=ideasonboard.com header.i=@ideasonboard.com\n\theader.b=\"QsB9B+kx\"; dkim-atps=neutral","DKIM-Signature":"v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ideasonboard.com;\n\ts=mail; t=1639138916;\n\tbh=vTJNAgd71TjbQfCQj1Wiy6PtQBBbrxp8FLu6yhDTwNk=;\n\th=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From;\n\tb=QsB9B+kx1tpMVEwkSBHurmMpl1Co7PeUzDCaEBFHLtafGu7CUaHFRd0pD+EPL7IBu\n\toFnPes9cSUylD6rQgSPluY8ThP0X0b8C6iCNo+1LEQ+d7bHWa/0IAhZPO5Tj0P6vXg\n\twD2ezEV0Z1oA+lhD62oV8zdJuPo8IQLE0ort3AOI=","Date":"Fri, 10 Dec 2021 14:21:26 +0200","From":"Laurent Pinchart ","To":"Tomi Valkeinen ","Message-ID":"","References":"<20211209092906.37303-1-tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>\n\t\n\t\n\t<204f8c40-927a-afb1-3573-7904023910ff@ideasonboard.com>","MIME-Version":"1.0","Content-Type":"text/plain; charset=utf-8","Content-Disposition":"inline","In-Reply-To":"<204f8c40-927a-afb1-3573-7904023910ff@ideasonboard.com>","Subject":"Re: [libcamera-devel] [RFC v3 0/5] Python bindings","X-BeenThere":"libcamera-devel@lists.libcamera.org","X-Mailman-Version":"2.1.29","Precedence":"list","List-Id":"","List-Unsubscribe":",\n\t","List-Archive":"","List-Post":"","List-Help":"","List-Subscribe":",\n\t","Cc":"libcamera devel ","Errors-To":"libcamera-devel-bounces@lists.libcamera.org","Sender":"\"libcamera-devel\" "}}]